Wednesday, May 13, 2015

dennis gergel?


The Ringling
5401 Bay Shore Road
Sarasota, FL
34243
USA

"Get Off of the Director"

RINGLING


79 comments:

Anonymous said...

The recent re branding of the John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art as "The Ringling" conflicts with the instructions left by John Ringling in his will. The will specifically states that no one ever has the right to change or alter the name of the John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art.

But like so many other instructions left behind in his will, it is simply ignored and not followed.

Would he be pleased?

Anonymous said...

I know that there are a ton of politics in Sarasota and some of this does not surprise me, but I do tend to agree with you. Mable Ringling seemed to be a lady of class and I'm not sure that the Circus Museum would fit in well with her ideals.

Brandy Stark, PhD
SPIRITS of St. Petersburg
www.spiritsofstpetersburg.com

Anonymous said...

Ghosts at The John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art

http://centralflghosts.homestead.com/SarasotaRingling.html?_=1406514165782

In 1991, John Ringling, his first wife Mable and his sister, Ida Ringling North, were all buried on the property of the John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, just in front and to the right of the Ca d'Zan. It is called the secret garden and John Ringling is buried between the two women. There is a locked gate around the 3 graves and tombstones. There is a garden and statues in front of the gate. On the date of John Ringling's birthday, neighboring New College students will sneak there at night and place a cigar on John's grave. The lock on the gate and this secret garden is checked every day by 2nd and 3rd shift security.

About 7 years back or so, one day while the Ringling Museum was open a female came in and went to the secret garden and sat down. It had been a place she had enjoyed and she found it peaceful. Because the museum has no metal detectors when you enter, she was able to bring a handgun in with her. She shot herself while sitting there in the secret garden and committed suicide. Ringling Security heads Russell (Russ) Lynn Pillifant and Mitch Ladewski had to clean up the scene after her body was removed. Russell (Russ) Lynn Pillifant is no longer employed by the John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art/Florida State University. .... I wonder if her ghost is still there today?



Anonymous said...

The John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art Asbestos exposure danger.
Asbestos was found coating the ceiling of the main museum basement in 1983 and in the Ca' d'Zan (there is today still a large warning sign in the basement that instructs to enter only when wearing full protective gear.)

http://www.trustfundsformeso.com/florida-asbestos-exposure-sites.html

Above is a partial list of Florida buildings and job sites where asbestos exposure may have occurred. Yes, the John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art in Sarasota is on it. If you or a loved one have mesothelioma, or other asbestos-related injury from exposure at the John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, and wish to consult a Florida mesothelioma attorney about your legal rights to compensation, CLICK THERE for a free consultation or call them at 866-373-5000.

Anonymous said...

Is the EPA going to bulldoze the site and its contents. Grind it all up and store the remains in sealed containers like Fukashima material? It would be best if the site was returned to wild nature like Chernobyl. The place is a health hazard.

Anonymous said...

One of the many things I just can't understand is that the John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art will often play up the number of pieces in its collection by Marcel Duchamp. He is credited with sending the very first piece of mail art. So how can the same museum that holds him up so high, puts in jail another artist, Dennis Gergel, who follows Duchamp's lead regarding mail art?

Dennis Gergel's intention with his project was to follow Duchamp's inspiration with a bit of Ray Johnson and Banksy added into the mixture. How is it that one artist's works are hung on museum walls and the public is charged a fee to see them and yet another artist's works are considered crimes and lands the artist behind jailhouse bars? Especially when the motivations for creating the artworks are so close, if not exactly the same?

The mail art that Dennis Gergel sent out went to his mail artist friends. It was abstract art with text, no images of anything at all. Therefore, no images of nudity or anything that could be labeled as offensive. He did not send anything to the John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Florida State University or to any of its employees. He never sold any of this art, nor did he try to nor was that even his intention. It was created strictly for art's sake to express himself. In general mail art is never created to be sold, that is a major sin as far as mail artists are concerned.

Maybe this can be a warning in some way to other mail artists? The John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art/Florida State University it seems would rather put you in jail then to display your mail art on its walls since your name is not famous enough to charge admission and make money off of.

Anonymous said...

More about the problems at the John and Mable Ringling Musuem of Art can be found at:

http://www.thebradentontimes.com/news/2012/10/28/community/sunday_favorites_the_ghosts_of_ringling/

http://curbed.com/archives/2013/05/13/ten-crazy-facts-from-ca-dzan-the-mansion-the-circus-built.php

http://ericandles.blogspot.com/2012/12/ringling-museum.html

http://pirosmailart.blogspot.com/2012/11/i-got-today-this-add-and-pass-from.html?showComment=1421448386864#c7788157270438006859
http://www.jarredwilson.com/?p=408
But don't bother going here anymore because on or just before 4/8/15 The John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art/Florida State University made him remove all comments (positive and negative) that mentioned the museum and FSU.

Anonymous said...

I am giving a less-than-glowing review of this place. Frankly I expected to be much more impressed, especially for the money you pay to get in ($25! And if you want to see the upstairs of the house it's an additional fee...Is it really worth it? I don't know because we didn't feel like ponying up the extra dough to find out. The lower level is interesting enough, but I don't know what could be so stellar that it is worth more money...or such a wait. As we were passing the place inside the house where you can pay for the additional tour, the docent said that the next available time was 4 p.m....several hours later!)

The circus museum's highlight is the enormous diorama of the circus and its progression through a town. There is great detail and obviously a lot of care went into it. Unfortunately it was VERY crowded and also plagued by people who didn't understand that you need to keep the flow moving when there are a dozen people piling up behind you.

I felt that the art museum, while interesting in a general sense, was very one-note. Of course it is the collection of one person and reflects his taste, which apparently was decidedly singular. If you like religious art primarily by Italian, Dutch and Flemish artists, this is going to be your dream come true. As for me, it got a little old looking at everything on the same theme.

The exterior of the house was interesting to walk around, and the terrace looking over the water provides a lovely view. There's a rose garden which is probably nice during peak season.

Staff ranged from accomodating to clueless to downright cranky. A woman driving one of the trams that take you between buildings actually berated some people getting off at a place (still a tram stop, by the way) because "you said you were going somewhere else." Really, aren't you just making an endless loop around the grounds picking people up and dropping them off? It's not like a cab service. (By the way, if you are at all able-bodied, just skip the trams, which are crowded so there's a lot of waiting; it's not that far between buildings.)

The gift shop was minimal, but again you're dealing with a very limited collection. If you're a fan of the circus particularly, there were a number of items for you: prints, puzzles, magnets and cards.

Overall, I wish this had been a better experience, especially for the price.

Anonymous said...

FSU defends and supports its RAPIST fooball stars. Like how Penn State defended SANDUSKY and JOE PATERNO. It is all about those dollars. Universities are nothing more than MAFIA like CRIMINAL ORGANIZATIONS. It is nothing to do with HIGHER EDUCATION. It is about MONEY and POWER. MONEY AND POWER. Human dignity is on par with dying Christ on the cross. SO WHAT to the minds of MONEY AND POWER. All LAWS are made by MONEY AND POWER to maintain and increase MONEY AND POWER. FREEDOM is a JOKE called RAPE to MONEY AND POWER.

Anonymous said...

CIRCUS GEEKS are mad at the world for their being RIPPED OFF BY GOD. So they collect RELIGIOUS ART to have its power. Like DR. GOEBBEL'S CRIPPLED FOOT demanded he walk beside goose stepping super men. Look at the psychology of the place. Ringlings got rich on circus carney shit. They were RESPECTED because of their ACQUIRED WEALTH. But when their backs were turned the world still called them what they were CARNEY TRASH! Like all whores. They demand being called a LADY.

Anonymous said...

No matter how much money can be piled up in FLORIDA. Florida is still just considered TRASH in the eyes of the world. That is why Jeb Bush is having a problem getting accepted.

Anonymous said...

For a better experience LAS VEGAS has a better fuck. Look at the CIRCUS CIRCUS.

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't enroll my dog in FSU.

Anonymous said...

http://www.neo2.es/blog/wp-content/uploads/ray41.jpg

I look at the piece of art on the left (both are by the great mail artist Ray Johnson) and I wonder how it is that he became so famous and the Guggenheim Museum would not have ever dreamed of having arrested while he was alive for doing this piece of art, but the John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art/Florida State University had Dennis James Gergel Jr. arrested for doing artwork with the exact same intention. Gergel is not a famous artist, nor is he likely to ever be. And if Gergel was to do an update of this Ray Johnson piece and mail it to the John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art/FSU, then I am quite sure he would be arrested again. Life, fame and mail art are not fair I guess.

Anonymous said...

I understand that the John and Mable Ringling Museum of fArt has more works by Mark Landis on display in its galleries then any other museum in America does. Fake art for a fake museum.

Anonymous said...

Mark Landis hit alot of southern museums in America, including some in Florida. So I do honestly wonder if he did try to hit the John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, after all they are not the sharpest employees around and I can see them being easily fooled by his scheme. In fact, if you go to Mark Landis' website, go to http://marklandisoriginal.com/portafolio/ and that is the John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art in the photo "1s" and in Mark Landis' piece of art "1Bb". So at the very least he has represented it in his art at least once.

Now if we can just get Banksy to visit the John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art...

Anonymous said...

About 7 years ago, one day while the John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art was open a woman walked to the museum, came in and went to the Secret Garden (where John and Mable Ringling are buried) and sat down. Because the museum has no metal detectors when you enter, she was able to bring a handgun in with her. She shot herself while sitting there in the secret garden and committed suicide. Ringling Security heads Russell (Russ) Lynn Pillifant and Mitch Ladewski had to clean up the scene after her body was removed.

This was the second time that I heard of a female bringing a handgun into the John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art (because it has no metal detectors as you enter) while I worked there. The other time I am aware of, is that a woman accidentally left her handgun in the restroom of the Visitor's Center while she was attending a performance at the Historic Asolo Theater located in the same building. The gun was checked into the lost and found safe at the security office by a security supervisor Derek Ross and the woman picked it up a day or so later.

There was at least one other suicide attempt that I am aware of also, it happened one afternoon as I was working. While visiting the museum with his family, a man cut both his wrists. He was taken to the security office to wait for the ambulance to arrive. He cut his wrists horizontally across though and not vertically up and down so he did survive.

I was also on duty the night a shark attacked a neighboring New College female student in the waters that the Ca' D'Zan is built on. Andrea Lynch survived the attack by a 6 foot bull shark, but needed 100 stitches to 17 wounds. She was in the water only about 200 yards away from the Ca' D'Zan when the attack happened. You can see the result in photos at:
http://sharkattacksurvivors.com/shark_attack/viewtopic.php?t=980

Who knew an art museum could be such a dangerous place?

Anonymous said...

Who is Dennis Gergel?

Anonymous said...

This is a real museum. Ya'll need to shut the fuck up and crawl over there with those losers who suck up to yoko. The REAL MUSEUM is REAL. Ya'll are just jealous because you are not talented and aren't REAL ARTISTS. Ya'll are just no talent dicks.

Anonymous said...

ya'll just mad because that is uh good museum and they don't give a fuck about you mail art mofos.

Anonymous said...

I'm thinking about enrolling my dog in FSU.

Anonymous said...

BANKSY should should create a DILDO. Then he could fuck himself/herself.

Anonymous said...

Can you name another art museum besides The Ringling that has artists arrested for doing mail art? I can't. So clearly they "give a fuck about mail art mofos." They show that they are against art that they can not make money off of and they prove that they are for censorship and are against the exercise of free speech in the USA. I doubt if you had been arrested by The Ringling for creating art you would be so willing to stand up for them. An art museum that has artists arrested CAN NOT be a real and true art museum. Having artists arrested is not promoting art or doing anything good for art education or appreciation.

Anonymous said...

HIGH CLASS is better than NO CLASS. That is why mail art urchins are not anywhere but in the dumpster.

Anonymous said...

Maybe they can start their circus back up with all the mail artists in ANIMAL CAGES.

Anonymous said...

SOME ART is NOT ART. Its just mess. Like JETHRO BODEAN. He is not a real DOUBLE NAUT SPY. Just like GRANNY she is not a REAL DOCTOR. The Museum HAS QUALITY STANDARDS. Only the CLEAN SHAVEN can sing in the concert hall of the REAL ART WORLD. No. Not all art is real art. That is why there is THE OLYMPICS and then there is THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS.

Anonymous said...

Mail Art is NOT REAL ART. Just like K-MART'S Big ART SECTION is just BABY KITTEN POSTERS. That is the extent of the K-Mart Art Section. Art is only REAL if PEGGY GUGGENHEIM said so. THE GUGGENHEIM says nnnnnnno to mess. PARIS HILTON and JUSTIN BEIBER are REAL ARTISTS. So is MARILYN MANSON. Not mail art.

Anonymous said...

SUPPORT THE MUSEUM AND THE UNIVERSITY! THEY ARE RIGHTEOUS AND WWWWONDERFUL!

Anonymous said...

When we COME TO POWER all of the people of the State are going to be issued VALUE RATINGS. If the museum says you are an artist you are. If they say NO. You are not an artist. They decide who is an artist. Not everyone on AMERICAN IDOL goes to Hollywood. THE MUSEUM KNOWS WHAT IS BEST.

Anonymous said...

SUPPORT THE MUSEUM! THEY KNOW WHAT IS REAL ART AND WHAT IS NOT ART!

Anonymous said...

HITLER was not accepted into art school. Face it. Not everyone is a REAL ARTIST. The University decides! All these little SAD HITLERS.

Anonymous said...

What a wonderful museum. Keeping high standards. High standards. Quality. Quality.

Anonymous said...

I heard an exhibit by artist RON JEREMY is opening soon. Ron Jeremey. He is a real artist. Even him. But not these so called mail art not real artists. But Ron Jeremy. He has some great paintings. He even has his own brand of RUM.

Anonymous said...

Yes. THE MUSEUM IS RIGHT IN EVERY WAY. YES. YES.

Anonymous said...

This museum is quality. It is real art. These people yapping on here are FLIES. Yipping yapping bunch uh CRUD. The museum needs to screen who attends. Like how WILLY WONKA didn't let just anybody in the chocolate factory. The museum should get OOMPAH LOOMPAHS to provide the security.

Anonymous said...

The John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art/FSU does not require their security personnel to be State of Florida licensed "D" security guards, therefore they are called security attendants and can not really be called security guards. I am sure the John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art/FSU does this to keep the salary costs as low as possible, but the trade off is that you are getting workers without the proper security training and the knowledge to guard millions of dollars of unique property. This leads to things like what happened on Election Day back in 2012 when one of its bronze sculptures was cut from its base and taken away. Security did not notice a thing and the stolen piece of art named Endogenae by A. Arlie Sinaiko has sadly never been seen again.

Anonymous said...

About 7 years ago, one day while the John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art was open a woman walked to the museum, came in and went to the secret garden and sat down. Because the museum has no metal detectors when you enter, she was able to bring a handgun in with her. She shot herself while sitting there in the secret garden and committed suicide. Ringling Security heads Russell (Russ) Lynn Pillifant and Mitch Ladewski had to clean up the scene after her body was removed.

This was the second time that I heard of a female bringing a handgun into the John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art (because it has no metal detectors as you enter) while I worked there. The other time I am aware of, is that a woman accidentally left her handgun in the restroom of the visitor's center while she was attending a performance at the Historic Asolo Theater located in the same building. The gun was checked into the lost and found safe at the security office by a security supervisor, Derek Ross and the woman picked it up a day or so later.

There was at least one other suicide attempt that I am aware of also. While visiting the museum with his family, a man cut both his wrists. He was taken to the security office to wait for the ambulance to arrive. He cut his wrists horizontally across though and not vertically up and down so he did survive.

On another day in first decade of this century, a handgun fell out of the jacket of one of the John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art/FSU's male security attendants while he was on duty. It was illegal for him to have the gun with him on duty and he was fired.

I was also on duty the night a shark attacked a neighboring New College female student in the waters that the Ca' D'Zan is built next to. Andrea Lynch survived the attack by a 6 foot bull shark, but needed 100 stitches to 17 wounds. She was in the water only about 200 yards away from the Ca' D'Zan when the attack happened. You can see the result in photos at:
http://sharkattacksurvivors.com/shark_attack/viewtopic.php?t=980

Who knew an art museum could be such a dangerous place?

Anonymous said...

According to John Ringling's will, the name of The John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art can never be changed from just that (even though it recently was.) He intended to leave it behind as a big piece of his legacy, his will states that he left it to the people of the State of Florida (even though FSU now owns it.) He wanted it to be and to remain strictly an art museum. He did not want the paintings and other pieces of art in the collection to be sold. The Ca d'Zan was to become a showplace of Venetian art according to the will (there now is an extra admission charge if you want to see all of the Ca d'Zan.) The will does not read that he intended to have any circus displays there at all.

Knowing the facts, it seems like Mr. Ringling's true intentions have not been followed at all. I don't believe he would be happy with "The Ringling" as it is today.

Anonymous said...

"The Ringling" in its print advertisements prominently states that it is "Accredited by the American Alliance of Museums." Their website is located at: http://www.aam-us.org/ or contact them at: American Alliance of Museums
1575 Eye Street NW, Suite 400, Washington DC 20005, USA
202-289-1818

I have also recently had to email and boycott Publix Supermarkets (Publix Super Markets Charities) and Saks Fifth Avenue due to recent financial donations they made to "The Ringling."

Yes folks, I am serious about this. No art museum should have the right to have an artist arrested for creating art.

Anonymous said...

So all of you critics, go far away from me now. For you are no better then me, no not by what you've shown. You're all just pissing in the wind. You don't know it, but you are. Just pissing in the wind.
Ray Flash by way of Neil Young.

Anonymous said...

you can't fill out magazine product subscription forms with people's names and addresses and put them around even in an art format. it encourages people sending them in. if someone sends it in it is a false order. that ain't art. it is unfair and wrong.

Anonymous said...

Real museum. with real art.

whining detractors who are just crazy. names for THE NUT HOUSE LIST.

Anonymous said...

Some people are not artists. Like those LOONY bowler hat wearers that go to lame flux events. They are like the weirdos who lounge in starbucks. This Museum is POWERFUL. The urchins are like eye crust sand. Mosquitoes. Ya'll aren't artists. Just NUTS with mental problems.

Anonymous said...

HA! HA! Ya'll so want to be artists and recognized. But you aren't artists. Ya'll are just NUT CASES. That is a real museum. Only real artists are with it. Ya'll have no art talent. Peasants. Ya'll crawl in the dirt.

Anonymous said...

In response to the following comment: "you can't fill out magazine product subscription forms with people's names and addresses and put them around even in an art format. it encourages people sending them in. if someone sends it in it is a false order. that ain't art. it is unfair and wrong."

The magazine subscription cards were glued with other materials into collages. Most or all of the collages were mailed out to many mail artists in the USA. I thought Picasso established that you could glue real world elements into your artworks and that the resulting collages were considered artworks? The artist, Mr. Gergel, never told or instructed anyone to alter or destroy his collages or to take out elements and do anything with them. So how did the artist encourage anything at all to happen? Shouldn't the people that actually sent in the magazine subscription cards be arrested? They are the ones that sent them in, Gergel just pasted them into his original artwork.

So an artist should be held responsible for anything someone else might do if they view his art? If someone kills themselves after listening to a song "Suicide Solution" by Ozzy Osbourne, it is Mr. Osbourne's fault? If someone commits a crime after watching the movie A Clockwork Orange, then it is Stanley Kubrick's fault. If someone kills John Lennon after reading the novel "The Catcher in the Rye", then it is JD Salinger's fault?

There is much more to this picture then meets the eye. I do not think that by creating collages and mailing them to mail artists, Gergel did something unfair and wrong. I do not think an art museum of all places should have had him arrested. This situation should promote a real discussion about art. Some of Gergel's work was recently added to the Kinsey's Permanent Art Collection, so you can not just say he has no talent and is not represented in "real" museums. I don't think Gergel or any other artist or mail artist wants to be arrested. I know by his letters to me, this situation made Gergel lose his job at the time and caused many other problems.

Sincerely,
Ray Flash

Anonymous said...

Ya'll work all your life trying to MOZART. But ya'll ain't even Tiny Tim.

Anonymous said...

Rape of an Estate...this is a gangbang now!

Read: "Rape of an Estate" by Joe McKennon
almost all existing copies are hidden in the darkest bowels of the circus museum located at "The Ringling" 5401 Bay Shore Road, Sarasota, Florida 34243, USA. Property of the Florida State University.

Anonymous said...


The Ringling will often play up the number of pieces in its collection by Marcel Duchamp. He is credited with sending the very first piece of mail art.

But he also did a pretty famous piece of artwork using his own semen. I wonder if The Ringling would exhibit it? Would they be proud to hang his dried cum on their treasured gallery walls?

Paysage fautif, or Faulty Landscape (some prefer Wayward Landscape), created in 1946 as a gift for Maria Martins, a woman who Duchamp loved but could not have. The piece consists of a Plexiglas-like sheet called Astralon, backed with black velvet, it is mounted in a simple wooden frame. Duchamp kept quiet about using his sperm in it. It was only identified as semen in 1987, by FBI laboratories in Houston, Texas, where the work was presented to the public for the first time. Then it wasn't until 1989 that the art world's suspicions were confirmed by genetic testing and it was determined to be Duchamp's very own sperm.

See it here: http://www.artnet.com/magazine/features/naumann/Images/naumann6-15-8.jpg

The Ringling will gladly play up their connection to mail art's Marcel Duchamp to bring in admission dollars. But they will have the mail artist Dennis James Gergel Jr. arrested and not care one bit about it, because the name Gergel does not bring in any revenue for them. It is all about name recognition and financial profit. It is all about money for The Ringling, not about the actual art at all. It is not about if Gergel's art was any good or not, it is that Gergel's art does not bring in visitors to The Ringling. Gergel is an unknown artist and big museums don't care about unknown artists, they only care about famous artist's with famous names that they can exploit.

And worse of all, is that they are trying to get all of you artists and mail artists to turn on each other, to complain and otherwise just piss in the wind. This way your attention is not on what is really at stake here. It is called divide and conquer, and it has been used for longer then any of us have been alive. As artists, you are losing your freedoms little by little and one day it may be you that is arrested and not just some nobody named Gergel. You will care then, but it will be too late.

Think your freedoms are not really being crushed little by little? http://www.jarredwilson.com/?p=408 On or just before 4/8/15 The John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art/Florida State University made him remove all comments (positive and negative) that mentioned the museum and FSU. This was directly due to this nobody named Gergel. If he is such a nobody, then why do they put so much into shutting him up? The reason is because this is way more then anything to do with just one little unknown artist. Look at the bigger picture, read Rape of an Estate by Joe McKennon. Look at how The Ringling time after time censors and tries to hide the facts of their actions. Their motivation is not art, it is to make money off of its visitors and donors. They could care less about currently struggling artists. They haven't yet found a way to make money from unknown artists, mail artists or off of Dennis James Gergel Jr.


Anonymous said...

Hush. You are just sad because YOU are not an artist and never can be a REAL ARTIST.

Anonymous said...

Hush. You are just sad because YOU are not an artist and never can be a REAL ARTIST.

Anonymous said...

Real artists respect the museum. They don't put objects in their spincter like you.

Anonymous said...

It is the truth. YOU ain't an artist. The museum shall be loved and respected forever because it is such a cool place. YOU are UNCOOL. The museum is of fine wine and caviar. You are velvet Elvis bull fighter flea market. The smell of funnel cakes and port-o-lets permeates.

Anonymous said...

MUSEUM=Greatest Good.

YOU=marginal type. Obviously sketch. Shady.

Anonymous said...

REAL ART has no desire to look at magazine paper doll cut outs newspaper in the walls hillbilly country craft mess from the urchins. REAL ART is always on THE TOP SHELF. Hillbillys. NO!

Anonymous said...

Buy toilet paper. Wipe. Learn to wipe mail art people. And wash your hands. You won't get pink eye all the time.

Anonymous said...

Even if an artist has no discernable talent, has no hope of success or financial reward and their art isn't adored by art museum visitors...they should not be arrested. And no artist should ever be arrested by an art museum for creating art.

Art is meant to disturb...Georges Braque.

Anonymous said...

They did not allow HITLER into art school. Thus the system created the monster.

Anonymous said...

ARTISTS who are not recognized but continue to be a nuisance to society should be placed in a facility until they can be properly euthanized. Unrecognized as legitimate artists have no intrinsic value as life. Seriously. Yes. Seriously they do not have intrinsic value as life. Nor should they be recognized as having any level of humanity. Such wannabe artists should be freeze dried by Chinese who are expert at it, and SIDE SLICED to create LIFE MEDICAL STUDY tools, encased in LUCITE to be used as INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIAL in Medical Colleges. Unsuccessful non recognized artists are worse than roach infestation. Non recognized artists at least turned into anatomical study tools would have more value as in their current state of FLUX they have less value than shower curtain mildew.

Anonymous said...

Warhol famously said that art is whatever you can get away with. Gergel got arrested and therefore did not get away with it, so he did not create famous art. Banksy has never been arrested, so he gets away with creating famous, documented and expensive artworks. Stars like Brad Pitt pay huge amounts of money to collect his art, just because he got away with it.

Art, like life itself, is not fair.

Anonymous said...

Same reason MICHAEL JACKSON adopted them white kids and folks said HE WAS UH FREAK!

Brad Pitt adopt all them black kids nobody say nothing bout him!

DENNIS GERGEL said...

Anonymous above wrote...
"You can't fill out magazine product subscription forms with people's names and addresses and put them around even in an art format. It encourages people sending them in. If someone sends it in it is a false order. That ain't art. It is unfair and wrong."

To Anonymous,
What I did was that I added magazine subscription cards to my artwork as collage elements. I filled them out using real names from people I know in my life and fictional names from movies, novels or other material I knew of. I never sent (mailed) any magazine product subscription forms to any company, nor did I "put them around." I glued them into my art pieces. I did not encourage anyone to do anything and in fact, I never thought people would unattach them from my art and send them in. I was just creating artwork as I am an artist. I do not understand how you think what I did was unfair and wrong or how it is not art. Many artists use collage, it is hugly popular in fact, so it is surely considered art. I was arrested because of this, now that is what I think that was unfair and wrong. I would love to address this issue more with you or answer any questions you may have. You can email me at dennisgergel@aol.com or write me at:
Dennis James Gergel Jr.
232 34th Avenue Drive East
Bradenton, Florida 34208

Anonymous said...

regergeltation

Anonymous said...

In the last few months more mail artists have been arrested in Florida for sending art in the the USPS mail, does anybody know their names or any details? Why is this happening?

Anonymous said...

Details are coming to me little by little, but it seems "The Ringling" has been very busy and has had 3 or maybe 4 mail artists arrested starting on or about April 1st. All reside in the State of Florida. "The Ringling" got their names and addresses from Add and Pass Sheets that the museum/FSU objected too. They were also after non-mail artist Brandon (Adam) Whitcomb, but that investigation ended when they discovered he was the alter-ego of recently deceased Ringling College of Art teacher Kevin Dean.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous above wrote...
"You can't fill out magazine product subscription forms with people's names and addresses and put them around even in an art format. It encourages people sending them in. If someone sends it in it is a false order. That ain't art. It is unfair and wrong."

I have to question this classification of what a work of art is and is not. Perhaps it represents just one of many possible responses to an intriguing question Marcel Duchamp asked himself in 1913: "Can one make works which are not 'works of art'?" If art is about creating ripples in a still pond, then this is certainly art as it did and still is creating many ripples well beyond its origin. With all the many diplomas represented at The Ringling, it is odd that they can not see the very basics of art history and instead come to the conclusion that the thing to do about art that they do not like is to have the various artists arrested. If The Ringling will display and charge a fee to view the works of Duchamp, then it should also encourage a discussion of his art and what it implies to art created today like this.

If it was a false order, then shouldn't the magazine company have taken legal action? Why did The Ringling take action in a magazine's company dispute? The Ringling took action against art it did not approve of. Why else would they have involved themselves?

Anonymous said...

Marcel Duchamp's photo is included on the original inner sleeves to Led Zeppelin Physical Graffiti double LP. The album's outer sleeve features a photograph of a New York City tenement block, the two five-story buildings photographed for the cover are located at 96 and 98 St. Mark's Place in New York City. The windows on the album are die-cut so that Marcel Duchamp's photo and other images on the inner sleeves peer through the windows of the buildings.

The same buildings were later used to film Keith Richards and Mick Jagger in front of them for the Rolling Stones music video "Waiting on a Friend."

Anonymous said...

We need to begin the finial solution of the Gergel question as soon as possible.
-Der Ringling

ROGER WILCO said...

Dennis Gergel needs to be put back in jail. All his art supplies need to be confiscated. He should never be allowed to create another piece of art again. Dennis is a menace to the art world. His existing art should all be burned to ashes immediately . In fact, just give him a death sentence ASAP. The Ringling was right all along, he is a horrible person and a worse "artist" who deserves the death penalty for his crimes against art.

ROGER WILCO said...

At the recent Anti-Brain Rot Mail-Art Show in Roanoke, Va. mail art was displayed from the late John Ringling representing: The Ringling, 5401 Bay Shore Road, Sarasota, Florida 34243. In response, the John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art/Florida State University has announced plans to create a Ray Johnson Tribute Mail Art Wing at its Sarasota location. If you can't beat them (or put all the mail artists in jail), then join them seems to be their new motto.

Anonymous said...

Why does the same weirdo (Dennis James Gergel Jr.)keep posting stuff all over the internet about (The) Ringling?
Posted by Anon Amos (Ringling/FSU employee) on August 21, 2015

Your comment is meant to be negative and have an insult within it, but yet you seem to have failed at your goal because the definition of weirdo is: A non-comformist who does not follow trends or a subculture. A true 'weirdo' will just do what they feel, and can get along with most people. This person does not actually conform to a stereotype and shouldn't be labled. So it is actually a compliment that you paid to the person you are attacking. Who are you talking about anyway and why hide behind Anon Amos? I am glad to have been a weirdo for most of my life now. I see no point in being just like everyone else, that is a very boring life. The world needs more people willing to take chances and speak out against the madness. Are you so shallow that you can not see that the goal in this life should not be to just shut up, consume, not stand out and only conform?
Amanda Fulk, artist
Houston, Texas
Posted by Amanda Fulk on August 22, 2015

ROGER WILCO said...

http://www.rayjohnsonestate.com/exhibitions/please-add-to-and-return-to-submissions/works/367/

Ray Johnson RIP
From the depths of death, Ray Johnson strikes a blow at The Ringling.

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Anonymous said...

http://www.rayjohnsonestate.com/exhibitions/pleaseaddto-and-return-to-submissions/works/367/

I see it here. It is based on a work first done by Ray Johnson.

Anonymous said...

Image at:
http://www.rayjohnsonestate.com/exhibitions/pleaseaddto-and-return-to-submissions/works/344/

The text is:
Robert (Bob) Reyes is a former employee of the John and Mable Ringling Musuem of Art/Florida State University.
While on duty at the FSU Center for the Performing Arts at The Ringling, Mr. Reyes often proudly told the story of a dead female body he once found while working for the Sarasota Florida Police. He was able to determine her name and she was a known prostitute. He transported her remains in his police car and found that some of it had stained his rear carpet. Instead of cleaning it, he left it alone so it would smell very bad. This way no other officer would want to ride in his vehicle. He enjoyed riding alone. He said he got used to the smell and each morning he would get in his police car and say out loud hello to her by name. When his shift was over, he would tell her out loud goodnight by name when he left his car. He said that his commander finally had to order him to clean out his car after hearing so many reports of this strange behavior and complaints of the disgusting smell of Mr. Reye's vehicle.

Often times truth proves to be stranger then fiction. Both Ray Johnson and Robert (Bob) Reyes are deceased. Ray Johnson was never a FSU employee like Robert (Bob) Reyes was. Ray Johnson's artwork has never been shown at The Ringling to date.

Anonymous said...

Sell the house
Sell the car
Sell the kids
Find someone else
Forget it!
I'm never coming back
Forget it!!!

Anonymous said...

I visited Der Ringling today, at the entrance you walk under some iron gates that read ARBEIT MACHT FREI. It is a creepy place, please be sure to avoid it. Thank goodness I didn't wait in the line to the showers. Someone needs to liberate that place ASAP!

Anonymous said...

Years ago, while working for The John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art/FSU during the holiday season one of the top security supervisors, Douglas Kingsley, sent out some work emails regarding schedules and dates and I noticed that he had misspelled the word Christmas in them. Keep in mind he is a State of Florida employee and these were official work emails. Without thinking, I corrected the spelling of Christmas, assuming he had just made a small error. Well it turned out he had misspelled the word on purpose. He had spelled it “Christmass” to express his religious belief that the holiday was a mass for Christ or Christ’s mass. So he took great offense that I had pointed out his misspelling. From then on, he went out of his way to make my work life as hard as possible until I was terminated. Another supervisor even told me that in a meeting of the security supervisors he had pointed out to them all that I was evil and a bad person.

So much for the separation between Church and State in America that you hear so much lip service about, huh? Because here a Florida State employee was able to use his work and his position to express his religious take on the holiday and he was also able to punish someone under his command for not accepting his own religious philosophy. The worse part was that I was not even trying to argue religion with him; I just thought I was correcting a simple misspelling to help him look more professional and accurate.

Anonymous said...

Because The Ringling is The Ringling so must the streets be filled with The Ringling.

Anonymous said...

Douglas Kingsley, sent out some work emails regarding schedules and dates and I noticed that he had misspelled the word Christmas in them. Well it turned out he had misspelled the word on purpose. He had spelled it “Christmass”.

You know who else spelled the word Christmas like this? ...The Zodiac Killer in his notes. One of the suspects in that case, Arthur Leigh Allen, also spelled the word like that in his Christmas cards. Maybe Douglas Kingsley should be looked at as a suspect in the case? Did he ever live in CA near SF?